I stumbled across this subreddit a few days ago and honestly I can’t believe something like this still exists. Not a seduction subreddit, there is nothing wrong with that on it’s own. But the rhetoric in here is absolutely disgusting.
What I see a lot on here are people acting as if all women are essentially the same.
-“Woman want a guy who is confident, secure with their body and **masculine**.”
-“Woman at the club will look at you if you are having fun and **don’t care** what they think about you.”
-“Woman are attracted to men who can **control** any room they walk into.”
By themselves, statements like these aren’t that bad. It’s certainly true that more women are attracted to guys with certain characteristics. And that goes the same for guys. But that is not how things are framed here. Women are talked about as if they have no agency, no thoughts. Just beings waiting to find men who fit the description of attractive that has been laid out here. This is all TOTAL BULLSHIT. Tons of women like guys who are open about their emotions and not afraid of their insecurities (that’s the kind of guy that would be called a beta here).
But the bigger problem here is this is essentially the only way you all talk about women. I know this is a seduction subreddit so everything is sex related, but you are spreading an ideology that leads people to completely objectify women. It’s disgusting. And I have no problem with trying to get laid. You just need to stop brainwashing yourself to the point where you see women as “something to conquer”. You may think you let that perspective go when you aren’t seducing women, but you are wrong. It is still incredibly limiting and damaging. It damages the psyche of BOTH men and women. So please, please, please ask yourself if you are putting half the world in a box. And if you are, try to understand why that’s not okay.
Oh and I forgot the most fucked up part of this all. The people spreading this rhetoric are very often doing so in comment sections of people asking for genuine help. Sadboi James comes on here because his heart was broken. And everybody tells James that whoever broke his heart doesn’t matter and she is a waste of his time. How tf do you know that when you know nothing about her? The “numbers game” philosophy is fine if it could truly be limited to meaningless sex, but it clearly is not. It is fucking up how you think about and treat people.
WOMEN ARE NOT ALL THE SAME PLEASE STOP TELLING ANYBODY OTHERWISE.
Hi, I’m a university student researching your community (in a broad sense i.e. the seduction community in general) for a project specifically related to “Discourse Communities” as defined by Swales in [this](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/778e/5c87e6041903980d25449c9a2972947a351e.pdf) paper. My assignment is to understand the history, the language, and the structure of a given community, and to that end I will pose the following questions:
1. Is the novel *The Game*, by Neil Strauss, still considered to be a good general resource to those in the seduction community?
1. If not, what are some good resources to understand the modern seduction community?
2. What other communities would you consider yourself a part of currently? Self-Improvement, “PUA”, etc.
3. What other large online seduction communities currently exist outside of Reddit
4. How did you first hear about seduction “in general” (as a Discourse Community)?
I can also answer any other questions you might have about my project, although, I will probably reply sparingly.
I am a 22 year old male on a coed college sports team of about 26 people. About half of the team is female. Recently we had a fundraising event whereby we had to volunteer in shifts. I stayed the whole time, as I am a member of the executive committee. Our club president (who I am friends with) befriended a new girl on the team, and it appears as though they are now dating. They made out several times behind the event table, which just made me upset considering I’ve never had the testicular fortitude to even ask a girl out.
Mind you, this guy is in shape at 5’7″ and I’m built like a twig at 5’10” 150 lb. He tries to get me to go to the gym with him, but my schedule is always busy and I don’t have workouts memorized like he does. We’ve also talked about dating before, and he has said in the past that he can’t find what he’s looking for on campus and is single. I have always been single.
That aside, I am asking for help because there are 5-6 new girls on the team, and quite a few are very attractive. I’m trying not to develop oneitis, also, but there are 1-2 girls that I would consider to be my type. There’s competition though and I need to squash it.
But I want to follow in this guy’s footsteps, because I think I’m at a turning point now, a crossroads I haven’t been in since high school. I graduate in May and don’t want to pass up any opportunities, but I don’t want to be friendzoned in the process.
Question for the good looking guys of this subreddit, how often are you rejected at the club/bar?
Ive always been very introverted with social anxiety and I’ve recently been putting myself out there after reading “ Models “ by Mark Manson. Anyways the last few times I’m able to push through the fear and attempt an approach I get shut down.
Now not to pat myself on the back here but I’ve been told by people around me that I’m a handsome guy and a couple people said I should try out modelling but Ive still been single and getting rejected when out at the club. I mean I rarely approach maybe like twice in one night
Is it really just a numbers game then cause I will try like two attempts on a night out and then feel shitty with a bruised ego the rest of the night.
I’m currently sitting alone in a cafe and studying. There’s a first or second date by my side and I can hear all the conversation. The guy is so smooth with the girl, communicating is emotion while listening to the girl and Its clear she’s feeling safe talking with her true emotions.
I want to be that guy.
I have something called social anxiety and honestly… I suck when it comes to girls. I have no problems with guys and I kicked that anxiety butt long ago except when it comes to girl.
Like I know i’m not ugly and I get good match ratio on tinder but when its time for conversation, Its a dead story already ( never met a girl on there and convos dies pretty early)
I want to be proactive and change my social skills with girls. Where do I start?
All advice is great and sorry for my grammar i’m not a native english speaker.
I got tired of swiping and the dismal response rate recently. So I made a profile with pictures of a very tall sexy dude, a 9/10, and started swiping. Within two days I had 15 matches. This was quite a revelation. It’s true what they say. Women want to have sex just as much as men, but they want it with chad.
With this chad ego, I kept the texting to the minimum and very generic. I gave out a number for a second phone I have within the first convo.Thirsty ladies immediately wanted to meet up. So I setup a date at the bar near my house with an average looking one, a 6-7.
Now I’m tall but not over 6 foot and I’m not ugly either but I do have a very lucrative job. A job that does raise my smv quite a bit. So I go in and sit at the bar. I scan and find my target has arrived. I get some food and order a drink. Target has already ordered a drink. I pull out the burner and let her know I can’t make it.
Then I send over a drink to the target. Bar tender servers her the drink and I give her a smile and nod. After a bit I get up and go over to her. Introduce myself and talk very confidently. Now she’s been expecting the D all week so she’s pretty receptive.
It goes well. I close within the hour and take her to my place and smash.
I am now going to repeat with dozen other numbers I have.
Me and my ex broke up a little over a year ago and I honestly made a lot of mistakes trying to her her back like begging crying gifting etc. I went in and out of no contact making the same mistakes but this time around when I contacted I did all that I could do to not bring up the past and I did great I talked to her for the past 2 weeks just as friend and we both flirted and she even would text me “good morning have a great day :)” so I felt like I was getting some where this time finally we’ll we had a date set up
For yesterday after I got off work and she went all day without texting me and an hour after the scheduled date she canceled and said her aunt have her a surprise visit ( they live 6 hours part) I asked her how long she was visiting for and she said idk so I’m assuming it’s a bs excuse but I played it cool and say well hey maybe next time we can get together and have some
Fun. Any way today rolls by and I started feeling a little needy and I sent her the can I ask
You something text she said yea of
Course I basically said hey I love you and I have made a lot of great Changes in my life and talking to you lately has been great we finally
Get along its bringing back the good memories but I see myself getting needy with you again which got me here in the first place I guess I’m just trying to see where do we stand. She replied you’re a real special person in my life but at this point, i’m not ready to pursue anything else other than friendship right now. I replied I understand and I would love to be friend but I just don’t think I can because I truly love you and being your friend and not your lover will just be hard and hurt I appreciate you telling me that and hey I’d love to be your boyfriend again and just let me know if you change your mind. Did I handle this right? Should I have done something different how can I make myself to be congruent with that I said?